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	<title>Comments on: Is Apache Ant Dead/Dying?</title>
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		<title>By: bwtaylor</title>
		<link>http://antwerkz.com/is-apache-ant-deaddying/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>bwtaylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a blog I wrote a while back comparing ant, maven, and gant. http://blog.bwtaylor.com/java/2008/01/26/ant_maven_gant_pros_cons</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a blog I wrote a while back comparing ant, maven, and gant. <a href="http://blog.bwtaylor.com/java/2008/01/26/ant_maven_gant_pros_cons" rel="nofollow">http://blog.bwtaylor.com/java/2008/01/26/ant_maven_gant_pros_cons</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Easter</title>
		<link>http://antwerkz.com/is-apache-ant-deaddying/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Easter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A big +1 for Gant.  IMO, Gant may well point the way for the &quot;next-gen&quot; all-purpose build tool.

I gave a talk on this recently.  My main analogy is this: imagine that Ant is a giant clockworks that keeps perfect time. We can add new gears to the clock, but it is so &quot;high ceremony&quot; that it is a deterrent.  Also, doing anything programmatic with the AntContrib tasks is simply brutal.

By contrast, Gant is a &quot;melted clock&quot; from a Dali painting: it still keeps time (and provides access to the &quot;old iron&quot; of Ant), but it is far more pliable and flexible.  It is trivial to extend and do logic/iterative tasks, because it is the full-power of Groovy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A big +1 for Gant.  IMO, Gant may well point the way for the &#8220;next-gen&#8221; all-purpose build tool.</p>
<p>I gave a talk on this recently.  My main analogy is this: imagine that Ant is a giant clockworks that keeps perfect time. We can add new gears to the clock, but it is so &#8220;high ceremony&#8221; that it is a deterrent.  Also, doing anything programmatic with the AntContrib tasks is simply brutal.</p>
<p>By contrast, Gant is a &#8220;melted clock&#8221; from a Dali painting: it still keeps time (and provides access to the &#8220;old iron&#8221; of Ant), but it is far more pliable and flexible.  It is trivial to extend and do logic/iterative tasks, because it is the full-power of Groovy.</p>
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		<title>By: jlee</title>
		<link>http://antwerkz.com/is-apache-ant-deaddying/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>jlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re evaluating gant at ${work}.  We&#039;re (well, my coworker) just trying to figure out how to nicely include base scripts and override certain targets/definitions.  We&#039;ll almost certainly end up with something groovy based, though, as I&#039;ve been writing more and more groovy-based tasks in my build.xml.  Groovy seems the most natural fit at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re evaluating gant at ${work}.  We&#8217;re (well, my coworker) just trying to figure out how to nicely include base scripts and override certain targets/definitions.  We&#8217;ll almost certainly end up with something groovy based, though, as I&#8217;ve been writing more and more groovy-based tasks in my build.xml.  Groovy seems the most natural fit at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Francois MAROT</title>
		<link>http://antwerkz.com/is-apache-ant-deaddying/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>Francois MAROT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is GANT, based on ANT which can be really useful: http://gant.codehaus.org/
It uses GROOVY as a scripting language and eases the way to call ANT tasks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is GANT, based on ANT which can be really useful: <a href="http://gant.codehaus.org/" rel="nofollow">http://gant.codehaus.org/</a><br />
It uses GROOVY as a scripting language and eases the way to call ANT tasks.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Bodewig</title>
		<link>http://antwerkz.com/is-apache-ant-deaddying/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Bodewig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just realized that we&#039;ve never updated the site, DOH!

Ant 1.7.1beta has been in its second beta since a few weeks http://people.apache.org/dist/ant/v1.7.1beta2/ - and should be released pretty soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just realized that we&#8217;ve never updated the site, DOH!</p>
<p>Ant 1.7.1beta has been in its second beta since a few weeks <a href="http://people.apache.org/dist/ant/v1.7.1beta2/" rel="nofollow">http://people.apache.org/dist/ant/v1.7.1beta2/</a> &#8211; and should be released pretty soon.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Is Apache Ant Dead/Dying? Apache: What The World Is Saying About Apache</title>
		<link>http://antwerkz.com/is-apache-ant-deaddying/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Is Apache Ant Dead/Dying? Apache: What The World Is Saying About Apache</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Is Apache Ant Dead/Dying? Ant 1.7.0 was released way back in December 2006. Since then, there hasn’t been a single update. Not even a maintenance release. Now, ant is a relatively mature product. It’s been out a while and is quite stable. &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Is Apache Ant Dead/Dying? Ant 1.7.0 was released way back in December 2006. Since then, there hasn’t been a single update. Not even a maintenance release. Now, ant is a relatively mature product. It’s been out a while and is quite stable. &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jlee</title>
		<link>http://antwerkz.com/is-apache-ant-deaddying/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>jlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting.  I&#039;ll give that a look.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting.  I&#8217;ll give that a look.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: jaco</title>
		<link>http://antwerkz.com/is-apache-ant-deaddying/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>jaco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have a look at http://www.gradle.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have a look at <a href="http://www.gradle.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.gradle.org</a></p>
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